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Post by Taonas Deridran on May 20, 2009 23:29:02 GMT -7
Posted by XFS Shadow on their forum, seen here: www.xfsclan.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13733You decide. Got this in an email from one of the people at the BC Freelancers forum, named Shepherd. Now normally I don't post stuff relating to him, because he's just an independent. But this particular piece concerns us, I feel he's made a mistake. It is his server...but we can still have an opinion about it.
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Greetings
I have been reading many forums of late and I must say I have been greatly disappointed with many clans and one independent in BC. It has left me with a troubled mine that so many clans that lead so many people and individuals out in BC have resorted in cheating, hacking, hyper-threading and so on. Some of you are proud of the fact and brag about how you out cheated your foe.
Those of you that have participated in these acts have nothing to be proud of. Don’t you see when you act in this poorly fashion what does that say about your character? Do you cheat in real life or just wish that you could?
If one clan cheats and you feel that you have to cheat also to win you have lost already. You have lost because you lowered yourselves to their level. If a clan chooses to cheat the best way to handle that kind of situation is ignore them. Never let them have the satisfaction of provoking you. When you do then you have given them control over yourself.
It is with the deepest regret that I am informing you that the following clans and one individual will not be allowed in my server when I return to BC.
Devil Dogs
Imperial Klingon Fleet
Killroy Squad
X Fleet Sentinels
And Saratoga
Each clan and individual all have admitted to using cheats, hacking and crashing servers. Killroys Squad for aiding and assisting in the war as support to IKF. Although KS did not use any modification but did support IKF and did not contest the fact that IKF did use cheats. Saratoga admitted he used cheats and hack also in BC.
None of you have my respect. You have disgraced yourselves and your clans and more over you all have desecrated Star Trek Bridge Commander as a game.
When one cheats he robs from his own integrity and embarrasses himself in the spot light.
Shepherd
My reply is simply this. While we agree regarding the fact that cheating is bad, where's your proof of XFS and DD cheating? Making accusations without proof is unwise, and makes you look bad. But if you want to be that way to two clans who have not done anything to you, then we'll either shoot or ban any members of the BC Freelancers (Currently known as Shepherd, Taonas Deridran, and Logan)that enter XFS servers (and probably DD space as well) until the situation changes.
Its your server, but actions you take will have consequences.
The fact is, we don't cheat, and you've lost respect.
Shadow
My response was such: Soldierboy is a member of FH and not a Freelancer. He was simply in the teamspeak talking to us when Shadow entered. As for proof, not all of us are running Fraps or related programs; Therefore, it is hard for us to gain proof. I am not accusing anyone here because I personally haven't seen any hacking. I do not enter other servers besides my own and Shepherd's because other people do not understand how to ban disruptive players like the two of us do. You can shoot me all you want. Just remember, we are the boss in our servers. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you can demand that we change our ways.
For now, I am still allowing everyone into my my server, Freelancer Duels. If I find you or any other clan becoming disruptive or cannot follow rules, I will not hesitate to ban you permanently. Even if you have a rotating router, I can still ban your entire range. It has been done before and can be done again.
"Seek not the wickedness amongst your neighbors lest it seek purchase in your own house." - Book of Origin (Stargate SG1)
Taonas Deridran
I do not understand why Shadow is so offended by this act. You might see him or his members once a month in Shepherd's server. Sure, Shepherd is accusing them of either cheating or supporting those who do cheat. However, it is his server and he can deny access to anyone he wants to. It is his computer he is putting on the line every time he hosts a server. If Shadow hates being shunned, then he needs to get a life and find better people to hang out with. I am quickly losing my patience with the cheaters, supporters, and war-mongers of BC. I am about ready to deny access to my server when it comes to all the clans that Shepherd no longer allows. Taonas Deridran |
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Post by Taonas Deridran on May 20, 2009 23:32:30 GMT -7
Just had to add this funny statement: By XFS Argent:
in light of all of this, one can't help but wonder where this will lead everybody, now that one of the three remaining GOOD and SAFE servers of BC now has VIP access only Perhaps they should stop supporting cheaters and hackers. Better yet, host your own damn server. |
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Post by Taonas Deridran on May 21, 2009 0:33:10 GMT -7
If you cannot keep a civil tongue in this forum, then by all means get out. If I find another post like this one, you will be banned permanently and your internet service provider will be contacted.
EDIT: This was directed at lolnoobs. I do not like to see such trash in our forum. All he could put in here was vulgar language and derogatory slurs. I have banned his IPs, deleted his accounts, and removed his posts. I will continue to do so as long as necessary.
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Post by Taonas Deridran on May 21, 2009 0:48:02 GMT -7
Very well, here it is to your face. You talk about giving your opinion in your forum. I did the same in mine. You now demand that I bring it to your attention because it involves you. Why don't you say this kind of stuff TO MY FACE.
You consider me no better than your enemy because I say you need to get a life and host your own server. Let me put it in a way you will understand. If we are enemies, then you are banned from the Freelancer teamspeak and XFS is now banned from Freelancer Duels. I will ban your members the instant they enter. Do not expect me to give them an explanation in game. That is your job.
Taonas
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Post by shepherd on May 21, 2009 6:24:22 GMT -7
I guess I am a pretty good marksman. I must have hit it a nerve on this issue. People usually get upset like this when they know that you have exposed them. Such language from lolonoob has a mouth that smells like he has been drinking Blood wine and eating Gawk “not sure how the Klingons spell that worm dish they eat”. Those pesky Klingons have an ungoverned tongue and need to show better respect.
As I told Taonos before the worst thing you can do to another person is rejection. Makes then feel that they don’t measure up to your standards. Yes my standards are high when it comes to playing a game as well as in the game of real life.
I am sorry for the actions that I have taken but I feel that is the correct one. Sometimes a person has to say enough is enough and I have had enough. Ugly decisions have to be made and acted upon even if it doesn’t please the majority of people.
Those whom I have banished from my server need to gravitate back to the since of fair play, stop trying to find ways to cheat your way to victory. The right path is never the easy path but it is the path with the most rewards.
I don’t expect Kraagg to ever see my point; simply his mind just doesn’t work that way. I expect him and is illegitimate clan will continue cheating, hacking hard points and continue eroding Bridge Commander as a game. Kraagg is a real gentleman; I’m sure he takes the dishes out of the sink before he pisses in it. For those who continue supporting these clans are just as responsible for allowing and accepting these clans that do cheat.
You guys are leaders and yet you say I have made the wrong decision of alienating those clans and their members. Then I say to you, prove me wrong. Prove to me that you do not support those who cheat and alter hard points.
It is my server and I will conduct business there as I see fit. I do not want people in my server that show disrespect towards others and toward playing a fair and honest game. If this is too lofty of a standard for you then I am truly sorry for each of you. Toga says I only have 2 or 3 friends but I have been away for several weeks from BC and yet I put up a server last night and I was the busiest server on. People can count on me for running a tight ship where I will not put up with nonsense. Where people are respected and show respect to each other and for the game it’s self.
Again those of you that do hack and cheat will be shunned and those who support this type of conduct also be shunned. We were all taught when we were young that cheats never prosper. Everyone hates being cheated and no one likes a lair.
Taking the high road in life there are fewer people but the view is better.
Shepherd
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Post by shepherd on May 21, 2009 21:07:47 GMT -7
XFS members
I have not accused you of cheating but I do accuse you for the same heinous crime that KS has committed.
Aiding and abetting a clan that does cheat and assisting the out come of a war.
If your two clans are so above board you would had pulled your honorable and pious clans from the war. Yet you soiled your hands and watched your friends use their cheats to win a useless war.
Next time use better judgment when sending your glorious clans into a war where the two rivals use cheats and hacks.
Shepherd
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Post by Taonas Deridran on May 24, 2009 17:26:48 GMT -7
Three days ago, my patience hit the top of the buffer, and I exploded. I was tired of Shadow asking for an explanation of Shepherd’s actions, so I tried to explain it in my post. When I posted my two cents on it in Freelancers and was demanded to “post it here too”, I really lost my patience. I was then insulted when I read “you aren't any better than the enemy we fight”. I jumped the gun and fired every shot I had left in my clip. Now, I have cooled down and am willing to revoke my previous decision to ban XFS. I do not like to punish the innocent and would prefer to remain friendly with most in BC. I was approached by a couple of XFS members asking for an explanation of why I had actually done this. I was simply tired and on a short fuse. As of now, I am willing to let everyone back into my server as long as there is no cheating, no rule breaking, and no wars. I truly apologize for the confusion behind all of this. I have tried to explain Shepherd’s actions for the last time. If you don’t understand why he is doing something, ask him and not me. Taonas Deridran Founder of the Alliance of BC Freelancers bcfreelancers.proboards.com |
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